A former member of ashamed film noble Harvey Weinstein’s middle round is speaking out after scarcely 30 women have come brazen to contend they were abused or tormented by Weinstein.in the 2000s.
The former assistant, who did not wish to be identified and asked us to change his voice, told CBS News’ Bianna Golodryga he feels he and others who worked for Weinstein were victims as well.
Here is the full twin of their conversation:
Editor’s Note: This twin has been easily edited for clarity and to strengthen the subject’s anonymity.
Bianna Golodryga: You were his assistant, correct?
Former Weinstein assistant: Yes.
Golodryga: How many assistants did he have?
Former Weinstein assistant: It fluctuates between 4 and 3 usually.
Golodryga: So what did you know about him when you practical for this job?
Former Weinstein assistant: we knew he was a energetic personality, let’s say. A outrageous idol in the attention that we wanted to work in. But also a tremendous, let’s say, bully.
Golodryga: But with courtesy to his relations towards women and how he treated women, were you wakeful of any of that?
Former Weinstein assistant: Not at all.
Golodryga: So you worked for him, and your aspirations eventually were to do what?
Former Weinstein assistant: To be a writer in the film industry.
Golodryga: And can you report how he treated you?
Former Weinstein assistant: In varying degrees — like, dirt. And then he could spin around and regard you and you, you know, provide you like gold, and put you on a pedestal and then spin around and rip you down the next minute.
Golodryga: And the first time that happened with you, with regards to how he treated you, what was your initial reaction?
Former Weinstein assistant: Fear. But at the same time, we consider we had, we was 23, 24 at the time. You’re in a job. And you’re operative for a very absolute man. So you put your conduct down and you do your pursuit and you keep going and then generally when he turns around and gives you a bonus, says, here, take a thousand dollars, you know, you comprehend it’s all partial of whatever crazy pursuit you’ve gotten yourself into.
Golodryga: So what did you take that reward to be? Was that arrange of an reparation … It wasn’t making up for how he was treating you?
Former Weinstein assistant: I theory partial of it competence have been since guilty conscience, but, you know, we took it as – you just worked your donkey off for a week or so on a trip, and pursuit good done.
Golodryga: With all of these women coming out now, and speaking out about how he treated them, and the assaults that he committed on them, the doubt is, how did no one know? And if somebody knew, because didn’t they act on it?
Former Weinstein assistant: It was totally detached and kept detached very meticulously by him from anybody’s purview. And anybody’s ability to ask what was going on. We knew, and we consider when people speak about “the misfortune kept secret in Hollywood,” they’re not articulate about the fact that he was allegedly raping people. we consider what they’re articulate about is that he was a womanizer. And it was no secret that he had scores of women all opposite the creation that he would have meetings with. And those meetings were just him. we was never partial of those meetings. we don’t know any colleagues or executives that were in the room, ever, for those meetings. we never witnessed him or saw him doing anything carnal or unfavourable to a womanlike colleague, as has been reported. Maybe it’s childish naiveté, being 23, 24 at the time. But, you know, we consider if you were to ask anybody — yeah, we all knew that he was a philanderer, intrigue on his, his wife. Which was something that we all felt terrible about. But was sadly partial of the job.
Golodryga: So you suspicion it was consensual?
Former Weinstein assistant: Yes. Everybody did.
Golodryga: So everybody suspicion that his philandering and his promiscuity, we guess, outward of the matrimony was concluded upon, that it was consensual from the female’s perspective, too?
Former Weinstein assistant: It’s how it was – it’s how it appeared.
Golodryga: Did he ever speak about it? Was he open about …
Former Weinstein assistant: Never.
Golodryga: …philandering or women? You never listened him speak about women?
Former Weinstein assistant: I mean, we knew he would speak about, he would speak about women, as you know, “look at that pleasing girl,” and apparently it was a outrageous partial of his life – balancing and sophistry and coordinating meetings with women. But it’s not something that he would lay around and speak to us about, like, hey, you should have seen what happened when you left the room, what went on behind the door.
Golodryga: Were you declare to these meetings in hotel bedrooms and at his apartment?
Former Weinstein assistant: Never at his apartment. That astounded me. To see that in the news. Because I’d never seen him take anybody too close to his own personal life like that. But yes, in terms of meetings at hotel rooms, that was partial of the daily grind.
Golodryga: So you would be in the room with him, and we theory a lot of the …
Former Weinstein assistant: We would be, we would be in the room with him, doing normal business, having meetings with filmmakers and actors, and writers and directors and other producers, and executives. And then we would be told at 2 o’clock so-and-so was coming to the room. Make yourself scarce. And we wouldn’t even be there, we would be gone. And then he would call us an hour or two later, and say, “OK, come back up.” And that was it.
Golodryga: And when you would come back up, would he be entirely dressed again?
Former Weinstein assistant: Yes.
Golodryga: So when we’re conference these stories, you know, there’s a settlement with a lot of them. Where somebody would be in the hotel room, a lot of times a womanlike assistant, and these women would come in and they would feel a little bit ungainly but then when they would see a woman, they would be a little bit some-more at ease, and then the lady would leave. Or maybe the male assistant, too.
Former Weinstein assistant: Yeah, we was never–I was never that person. we was never that, we saw somebody contend in the Ronan Farrow article, we was never that like “honeypot.” To make them feel comfortable.
Golodryga: So when you eventually left, there wasn’t any desire in your mind that he was holding advantage or sexually assaulting women?
Former Weinstein assistant: No.
Golodryga: And so what was your …
Former Weinstein assistant: I never, we never walked into a conditions that we felt like somebody had just been victimized in a room that we was walking into. Or, you know, we never saw somebody fighting with him or using divided in tears. It just, it never, it never got, never in my knowledge did we see that happening. Hearing [the] NYPD recording was mind-blowing, to hear that voice that you grew so accustomed to articulate to for so prolonged in a business ability to be doing that was really hard. It was really tough to hear.
Golodryga: And how do you feel now, not only conference that audio but reading all of these countless, you know, exchanges that women have had with him and reports of women coming brazen now? How does that make you feel — meaningful that you were so close to him?
Former Weinstein assistant: Sick. Angry. Disgusted. You know, victimized in a own right, in a opposite way, obviously, not sexual, but, you know, the fact that he would use his employees as his tools. it seems almost like the company was structured from the top to bottom to service whatever it was he was doing. But, you know, it is…I’m very, very unapproachable and happy that these women are coming brazen now. we think, you know, it’s about time…if this is. Sorry, it’s been really, it’s been very tough for a lot of us.
Golodryga: I can imagine…
Former Weinstein assistant: Because it’s sickening.
Golodryga: When you left, from, subsequently, after you left, you also hadn’t listened any of these stories or accusations or allegations or rumors?
Former Weinstein assistant: No, not until all of this started really coming out.
Golodryga: So when the, when the singer whose audio we’ve now recently heard, when she filed that censure in 2015, we believe, did that …
Former Weinstein assistant: Yeah.
Golodryga: …set any alarm bells off for you, did you start articulate to former colleagues?
Former Weinstein assistant: When that happened, it was OK — he got caught.
Golodryga: And he got held for doing what, having an affair? Or …
Former Weinstein assistant: I consider we all thought, it was just, you know, he got held having an affair, something went too far, but we had no idea.
Golodryga: So now when all these stories are coming out about how could it have been such a well-kept secret, how did people not know, you make the case that you didn’t know, and others didn’t know, about the passionate attack angle, that the misfortune kept secret only had to do with the philandering?
Former Weinstein assistant: That’s, you know – we really don’t wish to contend anything, that we mean, overtly — it is … I’m trying to answer the doubt for you in the best way. He kept it very, very separate. It was after-hours a lot of the time. It was something that he organised and orderly himself and he done certain that nobody was around. And then he did not speak about it.
Golodryga: So in your mind, so as distant as you’re concerned, is there no honeypot, then? Is that partial of the story wrong?
Former Weinstein assistant: No, I’m just observant we was not partial of that.
Golodryga: So you still leave open the probability that there was some turn of complicity?
Former Weinstein assistant: I’m not encountering that, but we was not partial of that.
Golodryga: From what you now know, is there another shoe to drop, is there some-more to come?
Former Weinstein assistant: I consider we’re all awaiting it, but we have no clue.
Golodryga: And we was told by somebody in the attention that there are people who were even worse than him. Have you listened identical —
Former Weinstein assistant: Sure, we consider everybody’s listened rumors, but nothing that I’ve ever encountered.
Golodryga: And if you had a summary to all of these women, what would your summary be to them now?
Former Weinstein assistant: On interest of everybody that ever had the event to be employed by him and his company, we apologize to you. And appreciate you for coming forward. And interlude it so that it never happens again.
Golodryga: And last question, did you ever consternation what he was doing during those hours? we mean, it seems like it happened in the morning, in the afternoon, and you know he didn’t have an M.O. when it came to specific …
Former Weinstein assistant: No, it could occur anytime, but he kept it very separate. Yeah, we all wondered what went on behind those doors but it was just you know, it was speculation. Nobody had specifics.